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October 30, 2019


>>Thanks everyone for coming and it’s my
pleasure to present Leila Blue.>>BLUE: Hello. Thanks for coming and piling
in here. This is really packed and it’s really, really awesome. Before I say anything, I just
want to let you know that there won’t be any explicit sexual imagery up here. I’m sorry.
Everyone’s over 18, right? But there is going to be some frank sexual talk. So, if you’re
uncomfortable with frank graphic, explicit sexual talk, now is the time to probably leave.
I saw some of you brought luncheon. You might want to finish that up, probably a good idea.
So, if you look at the posters that were so sweetly put all over the Google campus, you’ve
an idea of sort of my résumé and what that basically describes is that I’ve been a sex
educator and a writer for almost 10 years. I have over 20 published books in this form,
the print form and I have some e-media as well. I have audio books and some e-books
coming out soon. The stuff that I’ve written is all non-fiction, so it’s all how-to information
on sex which stems from being a sex educator, working in the field, lecturing, doing peer
to peer support, peer to peer counseling and working with sex information hotlines, San
Francisco Sex Information that’s sfsi.org which is basically we take anyone and everyone
who has some kind of crazy emergency, sometimes non emergency or just sort of “Am I normal?”
question about sex and talked to them, and I lecture to the students. So, I’m actually
at the point now where I educate the educators. And when I worked at Good Vibrations, I helped
developed their educational department. And what I did there was I also developed their
outreach department which was sending teams to places like planning parenthood and teaching
them about sex toys, and sending teams to places like halfway houses for developmentally
disabled adults and teaching them, you know, about good sex and bad sex and being able
to sort of navigate their life as adults and things like that. So, I have a pretty wide
repertoire. I have a lot of experience–a lot of online experience with sex and searching
for sex. Not just because I’ve had a blog for a long time and I’ve been doing pod–sex
podcasting for a long time but also because I’ve been working for a site called fleshsbot.com
for the past several years. And Fleshsbot is a Gawker Media site. However, we’re sort
of an island onto ourselves in many ways and that it’s been run by one person. It’s been
ran by John O. for a very long time and I was the second person that he hired to come
on. Partly because he was re-blogging a lot of stuff that I was blogging and then we started
talking and we’re like, “Hey, we should just do this together,” but he also wanted to bring
in inclusivity to the site. So, it’s a site, you know, that’s for–it’s primarily targeted
toward a heteronormative audience, so like a straight male audience if you will about
porn, run by a gay man, administrated by someone like me. So, and then–since then we’ve hired
a bunch of other bloggers so that we can have a really–cover a really diverse spectrum,
all genders in all orientations and sort of also getting a little bit of a perceived message
that there’s isn’t just one kind of sex out there. So, the title of this talk is Sex On
The Internet, The Realities Of Porn, Sexual Privacy Online and Search which actually wasn’t
the title that I picked. That was my editor in front row. So, I came with a subtitle which
is Cataloguing All The World’s Information Even If It’s Taboo. As you can see I have
someone looking for Ceiling Cat and if you’re unfamiliar with Ceiling Cat, there–it’s an
online little cat mean Ceiling Cat is watching you masturbate. So, the joke is that Ceiling
Cat is watching you do naughty things which I think is a great analogy for things about
sexual privacy online. And I’m going to be doing a bit of reading here because there–I’ve
done–there are a lot of things in here called facts that I want to make sure that I get
right, so believe it or not. The Internet has changed human sexuality forever as we
know it. I think that we have yet to see the effects of how the Internet has changed the
way that we express ourselves as human beings. Basically, sexual information has been locked
down, commodified. It’s been held in certain channels. It’s been presented in certain ways.
Sexual information and pornography has been held to controlling interest due to government
influences, due to personal opinion, due to religious influences and also due to distribution
influences. Distribution influences primarily being people like booksellers who want to
sell books about certain sex topics which is why a majority of my books are with independent
publishers so I can talk about sex from an all genders, all orientations perspective
which means stream sex publishing is still scared to death of. Even though they’re trying
to negotiate with me for books, they’re still like super afraid that I talk to gays and
stuff like that. It’s amazing how backwards they are. But the Internet has sort of leveled
the playing field for what I see is a democratic dissemination of sex information and being
able to sort of talk to everyone about that. Basically, it’s sort of like a free market
approach to sex. People are being able to sort of look for what they want and find what
they want. Working on a site like Fleshsbot, I’ve been able to see and see stats and look
at stats and what people are actually interested in. I’ve been able to sort of play with and
test with looking what, you know, people have been looking for–well, and not just on Fleshsbot
but on my site and other sites as well. What’s really afforded people the opportunity to
start to make choices about developing what I see is their own sort of sexual operating
systems because I come from the belief that everyone’s sexuality is as individual to them
as a fingerprint and we sort of taken information from different places and we assemble what
works best for us and I think that it’s a constant assembly. I think that, you know,
if the first version didn’t work, say, it was beta, and do it again. So, basically what’s
affording people the ability to do this is being able to go online and have what they
perceived as sexual privacy. You know, it used to be that you need to go to the porn
store or you would go, you know, you would get an Adam and Eve catalogue with a very
limited range of things to choose from that, you know, where sex toys weren’t even necessarily
chosen because they’re made of healthy products but because they’re made of cheap products
and put together by people who don’t really care about the sexual health, the sexual pleasure
or what’s going on with people that they’re selling these products to. Well, like I said
the Internet has changed that to make these people to have privacy. Of course, the problem
is the people aren’t as anonymous as they think. What I want to talk about first, I
want to talk about the user first and it’s who looks for sex online and what are they
looking for. Well, I think the first obvious answer to all of that is that people are looking
at sex online to get off. And I know that it’s horribly taboo to talk about but basically
what we’re talking about is masturbation, people jacking off. There are a lot of perceptions
about people who are interested in sex. The idea of anyone being interested in sex other
than for usual mainstream immediate reasons is quite taboo. The idea of looking at sex
or being interested in sex purely for the sake of pleasure is something that a lot of
people just simply don’t want to talk about. And the presumptions of people who are doing
that tend to get shoved in the corner of the guy with the raincoat, you know. It’s that
sort of stereotype where it’s like, “Oh, well, if you’re really interested in sex or if you’re
searching for or looking for it you must, you know, immediately be doing something immoral
or be thinking bad thoughts.” Who else is looking for it? Well, people who are curious,
anyone who is curios about sex. I’m sure pretty much everyone in the world at this point has
opened up a browser and typed in sex just to see what’s going to come up because we’re
curious, we’re monkeys. It’s true. I think another group of people who are looking for
sex online are people who are seeking accurate, non-bias, non-judgmental sex information.
Sometimes, that information that they’re looking for is urgent and I’ll go into that in a second.
Another subset of people who are looking for sex online are people who are seeking community.
People who feel alone, desperate, isolated and even folks who just want to know if they’re
normal or not which is pretty much the most common question “Am I normal?” A couple of
quick points which I’ll develop later as well is the role of search in all of these. First
of all, I think the role of search–the role of search in sex, the strongest role is fighting
spam. It’s a big, big problem. It’s a big problem for people like me who want to get
accurate information out there and I just can’t even imagine what you all go through
dealing with spammers because they’re just–they’re pretty insidious. Unfortunately, they’re not
like trolls because trolls are stupid and easily defeated. Spammers tend to be a little
smarter which is a bummer. Also in the role of search I think is understanding perceive
sexual minorities or people who are perceived as sexual minorities, their practices and
especially their self-labeling. Seeing active with the current online taxonomy for the terms
that perceive sexual minorities and I’m talking even about lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans
people. Seeing current with that taxonomy that they use to self-identify with is really
tricky because it’s changing all the time. I recently did a series of pieces where I
was data mining Craigslist and I data mined Craigslist because I just wanted to see like
who is looking for what at any given point, any given time and any given neighborhood
in San Francisco and it was pretty interesting to see who is into what in the different neighborhoods.
Some things were fairly predictable like the, you know, the cliché of the businessmen looking
for the quick blowjob in, you know, in, you know, the hotel district that’s pretty obvious.
But I came up with some other surprises as well. What I really came up with that surprised
me which I didn’t develop into a piece was what I started figuring out when I was dating
mining Craigslist and I’m talking about, you know, just the quick and dirty personals,
is when I started doing it out on a nationwide level because I started to unearth taxonomy
that even I was unfamiliar with that people were using those terms to search for and to
connect with each other. So, I think that part of the role of search is kind of keeping
up with those terms and maybe even having community liaisons who can help explain with
these terms mean and demystified these terms. One piece I wrote, well, I was at South by
Southwest. I got this email from an F to M porn site which is Female to Male transsexual.
And they were having a hard time with their Google AdSense words where words that day
considered respectful and that they used to identify themselves in a way–there are a
lot of disrespectful terms that are used toward these sexual minorities, especially transsexual
people. And the terms that they used to self-identify were sort of getting put in the wrong bucket
and ending up coming up as, you know, ads for things that were really insulting, degrading,
disgusting and even illegal. So, they appealed to me for help. And I just sort of made some
noise about it and I think it sort of raised the level of awareness of how people are labeling
themselves. So, I think the other role of search that I think is really important is
understanding the importance of unbiased results whether for the user’s tribulation, i.e.,
porn, healthy sexual expression, pleasure and enjoyment. And, you know, as we all know
porn is legal in America, the emergent trend of sex using entertainment resources such
as blogs or for the delivery of accurate sex information, all of which, I think can easily
get confused with spam. So, that’s really tricky. So, the question is and I’ll go back
to who these people are now is who needs sexual privacy, accurate search results and unbiased
sex information the most? And now, I’m talking specifically about perceive sexual minorities;
lesbian, gays, bisexual and transgender people. Those identified by their sexual orientation
or gender identity regardless of their interest in the active sex. In most places, LGBT in
questioning people face hostility from within as from without the outside world. Community
healing hookups and hot porn which is important can be found online, of course. Matthew Shepard
found out in 1998 that being gay in Wyoming was a death sentence. Brutal transgender murders
like Brandon Teena which is what the movie “Boys Don’t Cry” was based on still happen
as evidence in the 2002 murder of 17-year-old, male-to-female Gwen Araujo from Newark, California.
But with a Quick Google Search now, trans identity becomes more of a community and less
of a mystery or a “gay panic” murder defense when justice should have–should have been
served which is wasn’t. Anyone with an outsider sexual interest such as people, Apple folks–now,
this is actually–I was in the–I was in the pride parade this year and so I thought this
was a great shot that I took from the car that I was riding in. I was like–I was riding
with my adoptive mother who is transgender, captain or president rather of the Police
Commission of San Francisco, Theresa Sparks. But anyone with an outsider sexual interest
such as a fetishist, and by fetishist I actually mean someone in the balloons or [INDISTINCT]
with colds. It’s a real site. Check it out. It’s not explicit. It’s really cute. Anonymity
in direct access allows someone who feels alone, possibly self-hating and misunderstood
and often a fetishist highs their favorite way to masturbate from their chosen and life
long sex partners to find community. And fetishes, you know, just really quickly–I’m not just
talking about loners but I’m also talking about–I mean, when you think of sexual fetish,
you know, we tend to think of, you know, the people who are sort of more interested in
like the fringes or the more extreme or the more funny or the more, you know, or outrageous
or easy to make fun of sexual interest but, you know, common sexual fetishes are more
socially accepted fetishes are like big boobs or big dicks, so it’s fit for thought. BDSM
and Kink is interested people as well. Those interested in power exchange sex, bondage,
sensory play of pain, complicated scenarios and predicaments that involved fear and power
over scenes are common targets for media discrimination. Until Hollywood gets over it and the dinosaur
era mainstream media outlet stop showing BDSM as abuse. Using it as a trope for female degradation
and telling us that Kink.com BDSM are dark and dangerous habits that can kill you which
is exactly what happened in the–as of quickly two weeks ago and in a CNN article yesterday.
And psychiatrist stopped categorizing BDSM interest as an illness. These people still
need access. They need information in the community. Again, anyone needing non-biased
accurate sex information, that’s any kid in the bible book worried that they’re pregnant
because their boyfriend came on their leg. This is an actual question that we got on
the Spizzy hotline. And this–we’ve seen actually as a direct result of four or five years of
absence education in schools. Since absence education has come into schools across the
nation, we at the hotline have seen an increase in calls from young people who really are
like, “Oh, my god, can I get AIDS from sitting on a toilet seat,” because no one’s telling
them what’s going on. And unfortunately as an effect we’re seeing a rise in STD rates
as well because they’re not knowing how not to get and they didn’t even know what they’re
doing actually. I think they can–they think that, you know, not–they think that oral
sex isn’t sex and they’re thinking that anal sex is something that helps maintain their
virginity. So, we’re also talking about trans people so desperate. They want to self-medicate
with hormones. Someone’s wondering if they’re gay. Someone’s trying to fixate themselves
during masturbation without killing themselves and needing to know how. The guy who wrote
me last week about a broken condom with his girlfriend or the girl that emailed me last
month who just had sex for the first time and couldn’t stop the bleeding and didn’t
know what to do. I was the person she reached out to, a total stranger but someone that
she felt that she could ask this question to. And, you know, that’s also the guy with
the flashlight stuck in his ass. You should have just visited Spizzy.org. So, who else
needs this information? Women. In a January nails in that ratings poll, they found that
one entry women were accessing porn online and that’s just women who self disclosed that
they were–we, we’re accessing porn online. Of course, we’re looking at porn but we’re
doing some privacy or at least what we perceived to be in privacy. We’re more empowered as
ever, women, period, to ask for what we want sexually at least of ourselves in anonymity
and be and fuck whoever we want in whatever form we want in places like second life where
you can be a different gender if you want to. Female bloggers don’t need to be sex bloggers
to have serious need for online privacy but gender does make a sexual targets. I don’t
need to communicate to you how many–about how women are sexual targets online. Statistically
and in real life, we all know a female rape victim. Cyber stalking as we all know gets
perfectly ugly when it’s focused on women. Sex workers, sex workers of all gender. This
means porn stars as well. I have an interesting example of that in a moment actually. Their
online privacy also equals to physical safety and different jurisdictions may or may not
agree. Sex shoppers, porn and sex toy consumers–costumers. People plunked down their credit cards and
personal info online all too often without accessing their risk of doing so. There’s
often so much sexual shame involved and whatever they’re buying they tended to just go for
it. Some companies bait and switch costumers saying they’ll ship in a Plain Brown Rapper
or selling costumer in photo during parties. Pretty much everyone, anyone who could lose
a job, a lover, a friend, a court case, child custody or visitation, freedom under the constitution
or could face physical or emotional harm from being added for their interest in sex or sexual
identity. And that sounds like a sermon but I have a couple of examples to show you. So,
what we’re talking here about and a lot of ways is the illusion of sexual privacy online.
If people knew how much their privacy was at risk when they paid for porn or post it
or answer that Craiglist ad or search for K9 in Google, were they still do it? Probably.
It’s easy for those of us who know our way around the Internet still laugh at a Nigerian
bank scammers but the Internet is growing new users every single day and will continue
to until you all stop breathing. But no one’s telling people not to do stupid things like
give up personal info in sexual situations from experimentation and masturbation to point
of purchase because the whole topic is still taboo. How many of you have heard of a Craigslist
experiment? Okay. So, that’s–I would say about a quarter of the room. All right. Sorry
to show you this photo. It’s horrifying. The Craigslist experiment. In September 2006,
griefer extraordinaire Jason Fortuny and his friend took a hardcore women seeking men ad
from another city and reposted it on Craigslist Seattle to see how many replies he and his
friend could get in 24 hours. Then he published every single response, photos, emails, IM
info, phone numbers, names, everything to public Wiki, Encyclopedia Dramatica. Then
they went public on Jason’s live journal page calling at the Craigslist experiment inviting
readers to identify the Craigslist ads responders and add more info “Your goal, identify people
you know, IRL, in real life, and point them out. We’ve already had great successes here.”
The page is still alive. This is a screencap from just last week. It wasn’t just any kind
of ad but a hardcore BDSM ad posting where a female submissive was looking for a rough
male dominant to beat her up and fuck her. The ads language suggest me and many other
sex educators that the original post were actually had no idea with the language they
were using meant. Clearly, what the person was asking for was well beyond the safe same
SM community definitions. This and the few other details suggested to me and other sex
educators that I talked to about it that the original ad may have indeed been place by
a man experimenting with transgender identity searching for that female extreme, the extreme
of female submission. Here’s the text. The point is Jason and his cohort took–cohort
took the ad at face value as an average and got a face value response to what the ad’s
message sent out to the world. They got 178 responses with 145 photos of men, cocks, faces
and more, full email addresses both personal and business addresses, names and a few IM
names and phone numbers. One respondent uses a–one respondent used a Microsoft employee
email address and another used a USR army military email address. Respondents emailed
Fortuny asking him to take the info down and he simply published their requests. Fortuny
then had his private info published at Craigslist and was threatened physically with lawsuits
and has been basically headed on by everyone from online BDSM communities to Wired who
called him sociopathic. Now, while researching my sex books, I’ve placed ads on Craigslist
just to get a random sampling or to get ideas. Every time I have received an overwhelming
amount of troll responses, of course, with photos I didn’t ask for, authors I didn’t
ask for, and sometimes some pretty evil language. I’ve definitely entertained the idea of doing
something with this information that they’re sending me but just thinking about it makes
me feel better. It would–it’s something that I could never conceive of someone actually
doing in real life but unfortunately, in this case, someone did. And it’s pretty common.
I actually have joked with other female sex bloggers and female sex educators about receiving
unsolicited, like, extremely personal information from people via email and, in fact, I’ve joked
over beers, “Oh my God, you pic. You’re great.” So ultimately, in the Craigslist experiment,
a high percentage of these guys’ lives were changed in a major way. Now, here’s the–here’s
the not eat your lunch photo. Censored. Censored for your viewing pleasure. And this is how
we censored it when we out it on Fleshpot. The top photo is someone’s whose–someone
whose photo was reposted and the bottom photo was the photo that was used in the ad. Some
might argue that the Craigslist experiment is an inevitable form of online natural selection.
If you have something to lose, don’t do something that could make you lose it. And I think personally
that if our culture was made to feel less ashamed about sex, Jason’s results would be
quite different. In a follow-up to the blog posting that I did on my personal blog, I
received an email forwarded from the King County prosecuting attorney’s office stating,
“Based on whatever the media counts, I would like to say that there was no violation of
our state criminal code involved here yet.” So what he did was actually legal. Right after
the Craigslist experiment, granted this was last year around this time, there was a copycat
in Portland. Yesterday in Gainesville, Florida, there was another copycat post which was flagged
and removed within a few hours. So I have another example for you. It’s a very hot photo.
The police officer recently fired having an adult site. Last month, an Arizona officer
was officially fired for running a sex website with his wife when off the clock. A three-judge
San Francisco Ninth Circuit US Court Of Appeals panel ruled against the former first officer’s
First Amendment Free Speech Right and right to privacy-focus case which, of course, directly
affects any individual sexual privacy online and shows, I think, just how ignorant a lot
of US circuit judges are about the internet. The judges ruled that because what the former
officer did was “vulgar, indecent, sleazy and disreputable,” he has no right to keep
his job as a public servant. The thing is what the officer and his wife did was simple,
boring, amateur porn. Okay. I’m sorry. But I’m surprised anyone paid for it. Seriously.
It was just–it was like they’re swingers, right? It was just like him and his wife and
it was a paid site and there would be pictures of him and her having sex, pictures of her
masturbating or pictures of her with another girl. So I mean, it’s pretty pedestrian stuff
considering what’s out there. The only offense here is that they were a couple being exhibitionist
swingers. One judge didn’t agree, and I thought that was really interesting. And I have a
little bit from his concurrence in a judgment. “With all due respect,” this is from Judge
Kennedy, “With all due respect, I am unable to join the majority opinion. Under the facts
of the case and the existing precedent, the police department could not discharge Dibble,”
Ronald Dibble, that’s his name, “for his website expression without violating the First Amendment.
As the majority opinion points out, Dibble was careful not to identify himself or his
website with the police department or the police status at all. Now, I recognize that
pornography, although apparently popular, is not a very respected subject of First Amendment
protection in many quarters, the majority opinion here reflects that distaste variously
characterizing Dibbles expressive activities as vulgar, indecent, sleazy and disreputable.
But vigorous enforcements of the first–of the Free Speech Guarantee of the First Amendment
often requires that we protect speech that many, even the majority, find offensive. Pornography
and sexual expression in general is protective by the First Amendment when that does not
constitute obscenity and there’s no showing that Dibble’s expression meets that extreme
standard. When applied to sexually–sorry. When applied to sexually expressive activities,
this ruling has disturbing potential for expansive application.” And this is a photo I actually
took at Pride this year. The–all of the–I rode with the police contingent which is really
fun and they were very, very proud. These were their pride beads hanging from their
side arms. The judge concluded a measurable segment of the population, for example, is
vigorously antagonistic to homosexual activity and expression. It could easily be encouraged
to mobilize where a police officer discovered to have engaged off-duty and unidentified
by his activity in a gay pride parade or expressive cross-dressing or any number of expressive
activities that might fan the ambers of antagonism smoldering in the part of the population.
I have another example. And this is a–this is a more first person example here. The story
of anonymous sex blogger girl with a one track mind. This is a recent screen cap from her
site. As I’ve told you, I’ve been a blogger and an occasional girl Friday editor of fleshpot.com
for the past few years. A job, when full time, requires me to scour the internet for explicit
sexual content of reasonable quality. We endeavor to cover a wide range of sexual expression
in all genders and orientations. And I’ll tell you, when–Joanna lives in New Orleans
and when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, I ended up running fleshpot for two months
by myself with no–basically no other employees. So I was doing 12 to 15 posts a day. So that
pretty much required me to be an expert on taxonomy and terminology, where to find it,
how to find it, who was doing circle jerk linking, who was doing spamming, you know,
who was, you know, doing re-directs and get myself really familiar with all the variety
of different variety of different types of sexual expression online and also see how
they could be blogged. We have a regular feature that’s call The Sex Blog Round Up. And what
The Sex Blog Round Up is it’s really cool because what it is is it’s a weekly installment
where we do a post that takes excerpts from sort of the best of individual sex blogs.
And these are sex blogs that are text, usually no photos, in fact, rarely photos if ever.
So what we’re concentrating on is text porn erotica, basically erotic lit, but what’s
exciting about it is that it’s generally people’s real life experiences as they’re writing them
down usually as anonymous bloggers. When I did this weekly, I had upwards of 200 text-only
sex blogs written by individuals worldwide in my RSS reader. Outside the 50 to 75 usual
suspects of variety sex blogs, MSN new, link dumps, and other sex news blogs, every week,
I would have to call for new blogs and read them and add to my feeds more because invariably,
a handful of sex bloggers who were blogging anonymously had to quit blogging, meaning
they were, for one reason or another, no longer anonymous. It was such a regular occurrence,
I developed a pretty snarky attitude toward the limited lifespan anonymous sex blogger
even though they often offered up the juiciest and most explicit posts about sex. There are
still a lot of regular anonymous sex bloggers who maintain their privacy but they’re extremely
careful and very web savvy in doing so. Although I know a number of them outside their web
personas from New York to Alaska and to London, London is where I found the hot post of single
anonymous female sex blogger, the loved and respected Girl with the One Track Mind. When
I visited London a few years back, I met the girl in a flesh and we had a very good night
of good old fashion English drinking. We went out to pubs and we had a fabulous time. What
was really interesting though was that the entire time that I was hanging out with her
and talking about trials and tribulation of sex blogging, blogging on the internet, blogging–personal
blogging, you know, versus blogging private stuff et cetera, et cetera because on my personal
blog, I blog about my own life as well. She refused to tell me her actual name the entire
evening we spent together. She, in fact, told me a psuedonym. I thought that was kind of
interesting. She also picked my brain because she really, really wanted to be a published
author. She wanted a book. She wanted a book about her website. She wanted a book about
her blog and a book about her exploits which she got. She later did get that book deal
named after her blog and upon publication in August of last year, found herself ambushed
outside her London flat by paparazzi and outed in the UK tabloids three days after the book
was published. She wrote, “I guess I was lulled into a false sense of security regarding my
anonymity because I knew that Bel de Jour, who is another anonymous sex blogger and also
British, was hounded by the press and still managed to keep her identity private. Whilst
I may have a high traffic blog and a book detailing my sexual adventures in the shops,
I’m not a prostitute like her. So, why, I figured, would anyone really be interested
in who I am?” On the 2000 anniversary of her outing, she recently blogged in retrospect,
“I could talk about how I was the laughing stock at work, everyone in the UK film industry
knowing and discussing the most intimate details of my sex life.” She worked on the Harry Potter
films, by the way. “I could talk about how I had to go into hiding and how, for a week,
the tabloids poked their long lens cameras through my parents’ letterbox and rang their
doorbell and telephone constantly, making both me and my parents live in a state of
anxiety. I could talk about how profoundly I was affected by the articles on me, both
in the media and online, how I wanted to challenge the lies, misrepresentations and personal
attacks but couldn’t. I could talk about how I wasn’t made rich by the book and that losing
my film career as a result of it made me worry that I wouldn’t be able to pay my rent. I
could talk about how my friends were offered money to spill the dirt on me and people from
my past suddenly reappeared in my life, making me paranoid that I couldn’t trust anyone.”
And here’s a picture of her. She writes for Guardian UK now. “I could talk about how all
my ex-lovers contacted me, concerned that I had disguised them fully, all of them now
aware of my previous hidden feelings about them. I could talk about how I then decided
to give online dating another go, only to discover that somehow every man I got into
conversation with, ended up on a date with, knew that I was Abby Lee and was a fan of
the blog, making me immediately scamper in the other direction because I felt so vulnerable.
I could talk about how almost all the men I’ve met and/or been intimate with have asked
me not to write about them even when we’ve had no more than a pint together. I could
talk in explicit detail about all the hot or not sex I’ve had but feel too exposed now
that everyone knows who I am and my friends, colleagues and acquaintances all read the
blog. I could talk about all these things on the blog if I were still anonymous, but
I’m not. My outing last year was a huge strain on me. And yes, I have managed to find a silver
lining out of it, but the ability to freely do the one thing that gave me such pleasure,
blogging, has been destroyed. Take the anonymity away from a blogger who depends on it and
you get a blog with no heart. True sincerity and authenticity about events, people, thoughts
and feelings rely on anonymity. I’ll challenge anyone who says that anonymity shouldn’t matter
when someone is writing about their own lives. It does.” So, let me lighten the atmosphere
for a minute. So, active threats to sexual privacy online. Well, right now, that would
be the US government. Is anyone here familiar with 2257 Laws or The Child Obscenity Act?
A very small amount of people. Okay. Great. In a nutshell, 2257 refers to regulations
under the Child Protection And Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988 which specifies record keeping
requirements for those wishing to produce sexually explicit media and imposes criminal
penalties for failure to comply. This is supposedly to ensure that no person under the legal age
is involved in porn, though it’s, of course, only pursued within the realm of the perfectly
legal adult porn industry and applicable only in the United States. The regulations are
directed toward the terms primary producer and secondary producer. Oh, and if you feel
like reading, this is the 2257 statement on a Canadian website. It’s kind of ironic, don’t
you think? So, the regulations are directed toward the terms primary producer and secondary
producer. This part is important. A primary producer is defined in a set of rules as any
person who actually films, video tapes, photographs or photographs a visual depiction of actual
sexual explicit conduct. A secondary producer is defined as any person who produces, assembles,
manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces or reissues a book, magazine, periodical film,
video tape or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction
of actual sexual explicit conduct. Different record keeping requirements exist for primary
versus secondary producers. One may be both a primary and secondary producer. Not surprisingly,
this has come under many legal challenges as the definitions of actual sexually explicit
conduct and secondary producer are vague, perhaps intentionally so. Just as the definition
of obscenity in the courts is left to so-called community standards, for instance, a fisting
DVD may not be considered obscene by San Francisco community standards but it most certainly
would be in Laramie, Wyoming. That’s how obscenity–that’s how obscenity is prosecuted in America on
a federal level at this point. It’s sort of a blanket, you know, leaving it to community
standards, letting the communities decide what’s obscene for them or not. But I believe
that these laws are intentionally vague. I believe that the wording about sexually explicit
conduct is intentionally vague and I believe that the definition of sexually–secondary
producer is intentionally vague as well. And I think that that sort of Mafia style on the
government side of things to keep anyone who comes near a porn image ever unsure if they’re
in violation of law. And when recent 2257 record keeping requirements came down about
a year and a half ago which have been challenged about secondary producers which is reposting
the content, I got in this great conversation with a friend of mine who runs an erotic online
magazine which is primarily just like non-explicit pin-up galleries and covering sex events around
the United States and then articles about sex and sexuality and sort of news briefs
and things like that. And his boss made it his job to go through every single image that
they had on the site and try to determine if each image was considered sexually explicit
conduct. And I talked to him on the phone while he was going through it and he was like,
“I’m looking at this picture of a girl’s ass.” And I’m like, “Is that red from a sunburn
or is red from a spanking?” So, you see what we’re going through here? Now, the idea of
having porn producers keep stringent laws or keep stringent records is, of course, a
really good idea. What’s unfortunate is that this is being enforced in legitimate adult
businesses. It’s not being thought of or applied to anything outside of legitimate adult businesses
and these, you know, mainstream porn people who have these giant companies and corporations
like Vivid and Wicked and stuff like that, they want to keep their businesses. They’re
making a lot of money, of course, they’re going to follow the rules. It’s ridiculous
that they’re rating these people and they’re not really doing anything else with this.
But what’s interesting about this to me, sexual privacy wise, this poses a serious threat
to sex workers. I know you wouldn’t think about this but I have personal experience
with this at this point not because I’m a sex worker but as a blogger. She looks pretty
young, doesn’t she? It’s kind of creepy. This is on her teen website. This is what she’s
using for her 2257 documentation. So, if you click on her site for 2257 documentation,
this is what you get. This is why you’ll start to see it’s a pretty serious threat. People
don’t know what to do and they’re doing some really scary things. Notably to porn performers
and actors in video and imagery, the government might consider sexually explicit conduct.
For example, more than once for FleshSpot and for my personal blog, porn creators, you
know, and people who make porn, they want, you know–they’re starting to get the Internet,
right? They want access to blogs, they want access to traffic and they also want access
to people like me who are educators that will present their material in context. And to,
you know, promote their stuff, they’ll send, you know, do you want images, do you want
a short clip and do you want the 2257 materials that go with this? To my alarm, I’m FedEx-ed
DVDs with scans of each performer’s driver’s licenses, Social Security cards, images of
them holding their IDs and their Social Security cards next to their faces, copies of their
contracts and signatures complete with current address and all personal information like
their true names. What’s important to know is that these performers have no idea this
information has been sent to me nor do they know who I am. And this business practice
is commonplace, unfortunately. Some admittedly low grade sites I’ve found allow surfers to
click through and see the photo IDs of the models. I believe we have yet to see the dark
ramifications of the privacy protections these sex workers no longer have. And equip Google
image search 2257 ID. It’s right there. You can find a lot more, so.
>>I mean, I have a serious question. What types of searchers lead to things like this?
>>BLUE: He’s asking what type of searches lead to things like this. And all I did, well,
safe search off.>>Because the passports are very explicit.
>>BLUE: Hello, I know. Yeah, and there’s a lot more like this that are US-based. But
it was–it was simply matter of safe search off, going to Google image search, typing
in 2257 ID. And I also found some when I went to 20–when I typed in 2257 proof. This was
on page four. The teen, I think, was on–for the previous teen was on page two. So–and
this is–these findings are from a week ago, last Friday, so. I’ll get a fresh one for
you next time, hopefully not. Okay. So, what else is interesting about sexual privacy online
in what sort of is posing a threat or bringing up some interesting questions? 2.0 sites and
understanding what is and isn’t porn, porn or not? Good questions these days, don’t you
think? On photo sharing social sites like Flickr, some users are finding that their
simple pictures of their own feet are ending up in foot fetishes photo pools. Oh, some
people are perfectly fine with that. Others are totally freaking out that someone is having
sexual thoughts about their feet without their express consent, nonetheless. Is it Flickr’s
role to please these activities? Well, it’s a really good question and brings into play
the changing cultural values and judgments about what constitutes porn, acceptable use
of images individuals create and how they’re seen by others. All argue that any foot fetishes
probably sexualizes feet on the bus, in the park or online. The only difference is that
the online software is giving the foot owners the access to see how the people in the world
around them might see their feet. Now they know what they, otherwise, wouldn’t know and
can’t control. The notions of community standards for porn or obscenity, I believe simply don’t
work in application to worldwide data clusters. Social networking sites have no idea where
they fall under 2257 regulations as to their role to users and have been fumbling blindly
with the notions of community standards with disastrous and embarrassing results. This
was a direct result of when–or what Flickr’s been going through trying to work with the
German government around how they want to police their internets. So, I am aware that
you had a talk here on September 21st by someone named Shelley Lubben.
>>She decided not to [INDISTINCT]>>Oh, no. That’s so sad. I really wanted
to come. It was the day before my birthday. Oh, I had questions for her. Well, I’ll go
over a couple of her points because I think they’re really interesting and I think that
they were circulated to all of you as fact. I, you know, one of my questions was just
if she could provide data or URLS for any of the things that she was asserting and…
>>I believe [INDISTINCT] someone actually offered. It was someone who just [INDISTINCT]
offered to, you know, find–help find fact and things like that, right?
>>Right.>>Like offered to go over a presentation
and find what things are supported by even surveys or any sort of data points but I guess
that was a bit intimidating. And so she decided to quit because she thought that, that was
too hostile.>>BLUE: Oh, goodness, gracious. Well, it’s
a good point though. So you’ve got people like Shelley Lubben out there running around,
right? Saying how porn is bad and porn is evil and she’s getting a lot of access. Media
like to listen to people like her because she says crazy things about porn and people
like O’Reilly Factor just eat this stuff out, you know. For instance, I’m–the frightening
visage of Shelley Lubben AKA porn star Roxy who was a performer 10 years ago and hasn’t
been involved in the porn industry since. So that’s, you know, kind of speaks to some
of the accuracy of her recent experience and data. One of the things she told you guys
was that 66% of porn performers are infected with herpes. The truth to that is that one
in five Americans are infected and porn performers are no different. How do we know they’re no
different? Well, I talked with people like Sharon Mitchel and AIM. AIM is the Adult Industry
Medical Health Care Foundation which was founded many years ago when there was an HIV outbreak
in the adult industry. And Sharon Mitchel was working in the industry at the time and
realized that there was a serious need for sex education in the porn industry. There
was a need for accurate information about STI, STD and virus transmission. And also,
she wanted to set up basically a standardized testing center where all performers would
go through the standardized testing center, get tested, be tested regularly and has worked
very closely with the mainstream adult industry people which are the same people being rated
by the FBI to make sure that they’re records are at, you know, that they’re employing adults.
She works closely with these companies and everyone is on a 30-day regimen for testing.
And they must provide their 30-day testing documentation in order to perform. On the
day that they show up, they have to have the documentation with them. They don’t–they
can’t fax it, they can’t say I’ll bring it later or anything like that, they have to
have it. And I’ll also add too that I’ve done a lot of work and a lot of research and a
lot of writing about the type of testing that AIM does because I was really curious. Like,
30 days for screening, like, you know, normally, when one goes to get an HIV test, it’s a three
to six month window in San Francisco and I was like how are they doing this turn around
in 30 days. Well, it turns out they’re using one of the most advanced HIV test that you
can get in the United States, the PCR DNA test. So, they’re pretty on it. One of the
things that our lovely Shelley also told you guys was that women do not enjoy making porn.
This plays into the myth that women don’t like sex, wouldn’t enjoy sex out of the contexts
of heteronormative romantic relationships or enjoy sport fucking. Porn performers are
not like the rest of us, they’re not. They like sex for sport, they are physically sexual
athletes. It’s like Cirque du Soleil sex. Seriously, they bend in these crazy positions
like–and they do it because they like it. People who don’t like being in the porn industry
leave the porn industry, they don’t stay in it. There’s a constant amount of people who
are interested in getting involved in the porn industry because it’s quick and easy
money, it’s starting be a semi-glamorous profession and it’s pretty regulated. So, there’s a bit
of a safety net. Oh, one of the other safety nets I wanted to mention too that AIM does
is that every “new talent” that comes in, every new model that’s girl, boy, trans, whatever
comes through and goes through a pre-counseling session before appearing in a video where
they sit down and they watch a really kind of boring video that’s long and talks about
STD’s and getting tested and what their tests are going be like and talks to them all about
their privacy and their confidentiality. Also talks to them about the social ramifications
of getting involved in working in porn and doing sex work. Also talks about the counseling
programs that are available to them through AIM if they want to do any counseling or they
need anybody to talk to. And also, AIM has a transition program for people who want to
transition into other types of work. So, they also help people get other jobs if they decide
they don’t want to do porn anymore. One of the things Ms. Lubben also said which is a
very commonly assertive myth, porn stars are victims of child abuse and sexual abuse including
early exposure to pornography. As it–as you probably have heard, there is no single unbiased
study that bears this assertion out. It’s another shameful myth perpetuated about sex
workers. The minute I find a study–the minute I find a study that bears anything about this
out, I will most certainly publish it on my website. The only thing–the only thing is
that I’ve come–that I’ve come across that are close to making this assertion based on
“poles” or anything like that come from Christian organizations. So, they have an agenda. Another
thing that Shelley talked about was that approximately 10% of porn performers are currently infected
with HIV and that goes with her 66% of porn performers being infected, you know, the dirty
shameful myth about how they’re all gross and dirty and spreading disease and stuff.
Shelley doesn’t have access to those statistics. She doesn’t have access to AIM’s statistics
because they’re confidential. One of the other funny things she said, I love this, no other
industry has more suicide related dust than the porn industry. According to–according
to the Association of Psychologists and Psychiatrists, healthcare professionals, doctors and dentists
have the highest suicide rates, also EMTs and nurses followed by food assembly and preparation
personnel. That would be people in–working in slaughter houses actually. What’s important
to know is why people like Shelley want to come and talk to you and why they want to
talk to everybody about why this is all dirty and bad and evil and how we need to close
off the internets so people can’t, you know–for the kids, which, you know, whenever people
say that they’re doing things for the children, it’s always a foil for some other agenda and
you should always see it as a red flag as far as I’m concerned. Shelley Lubben is an
active proponent of Utah CPAD legislation which states the essence anybody providing
open wireless access that a minor users to access pornography will be subject to a fine.
Repeated violations are subject to criminal and/or civil prosecution. A part of my talk,
I was going to go in the internet and show you the man behind CPAD legislations, a guy
named Ralph Yarro. And you might want to check him out, check out his Wikipedia page. I mean,
as updated and accurate as Wikipedia is, it still has interesting information about him
and about his CPAD legislation which is, you know, for [INDISTINCT] the most recent version
of the CPAD legislation was signed off and publicly endorsed by the governor of Utah.
So, that’s something you all want to check out and keep in mind. So the question is,
right, what do we do? How do we talk about this? What are our next steps? As a sex educator,
I think that it’s a case of informed risk and Harm Reduction. Is anyone aware of what
informed risk or Harm Reduction is? Any sex [INDISTINCT] couple of people. Don’t be–don’t
be embarrassed. I think that for everyone, sexual privacy and sexual access to non-biased,
non-judgmental information should be seen as a case to informed risk and an attempted
Harm Reduction just like we say for sex. Simply put, Harm Reduction is a progressive approach
to public health which takes into account that people are going to engage in risky behaviors
even if they know better or not. Unprotected sex, drug use and I’d like to add sex in the
internet. Harm Reduction attempts to mitigate risks and dangers by creating alternatives.
Some things that Harm Reduction has done is rather than just say no or don’t drive drunk,
Harm Reduction creates designative driver campaigns and controversial initiatives like
the provision of condoms in public schools and needle exchange programs. So, here’s another
fun picture from PRIDE. Opponents counter that Harm Reduction condones unsafe sex–activities.
I think with sex online and particularly with porn, it’s more extreme because pervasive
culture attitudes are still so deeply anti-sex and sex negative. Sexual interest is considered
immoral in both media and government. So, I think it’s now become, sort of, I don’t
know, a pet project of mine or at least a civic duty to try and tell people how to protect
their sexual privacy because I think it’s the most vulnerable kind at this point. I
have a huge safer porn surfing page on my website for that very reason. Users need to
know basics about protecting their identity and I think online businesses should educate
their users in a non-biased way and it’s getting pretty urgent for them to do so. At the very
least, there are basic general privacy guidelines that anyone should know about, basic safety
precautions right up there with all those used lube for anal sex. So, people are going
to do uninformed and sometimes done things with their sexual privacy on the internet.
As I said earlier, knowing the risks the horny surfer will still click a risky link to get
off or because they’re curious or get themselves in shady or dangerous situations because they
lack community or information and even more so since the barriers to internet access in
making online content becomes less and lower everyday. Those were the cops at PRIDE. Here’s
the user again and thank you. Thanks for listening. I don’t know if we have time for questions
or what.>>All right. So, I’ve got a microphone here.
>>BLUE: Cool.>>The Utah legislation that you brought up
made me wonder about something that I’ve only ever heard, sort of, rumors and myths about
>>BLUE: Uh-hmm.>>When you have an international community
website, like any kind of blogging or live journal or something like that…
>>BLUE: Uh-hmm.>>…then really–like do you know whose
jurisdiction things that are posted there come under? Is it who’s hosting the site or
is it where they’re reading it? And here, I mean, prosecuting the people who are giving
the Wi-Fi seems a little bizarre to me.>>BLUE: It does, doesn’t it? Definitely prosecuting
people providing Wi-Fi seems extremely bizarre. And I think that it speaks to the ignorance
of the legislators. When you start to talk about sex, sexual privacy and sexual activity
online, pretty much all doors shut when it comes to legislation, unless you talk about
something that you’re doing to save the children. The important point that you brought up is
where exactly do social sites fall? Where do–where do things like live journal fall,
you know, how do these–how are these companies–how–where do they fit? How are they going to deal with
this? Right now, nobody knows and they’re all, sort of, trying to figure it out on their
own. And I don’t think there’s an answer to that yet, unfortunately, which is why I’m
telling everybody. Hi.>>So, 2257 may not bother the big professional
pornographers but it can be a big hassle for social networks, photo sites, anything with
users, I mean, its contents.>>BLUE: Right.
>>What do you think is going to happen in that area?
>>BLUE: That’s a really interesting question. Because social networking sites, some of them
have wandered audibly and not, whether they fall under 2257’s secondary producer content
restrictions. I don’t know if some of you remember tribe.net, but tribe.net a couple
of years ago, for whatever their reasons, decided to start voluntarily applying 2257
regulations to their users on their social networking site. And they did so in–with
a lot of blanket. So, the tribe Bubblewrap Fetish which was really just about bubblewrap
was suddenly marked as a mature tribe, pissing off the users. And it also made users who
had adult site–had adult tribes, you know, which are–were basically places where people
could cluster and sort of talk about their interests, suddenly they were told directly
that they were going to be held responsible for 2257 documentation for everything within
their tribes. Basically, everybody fled tribe and it was the downfall of that site. It’s
now trying to resurrect itself again but it didn’t work out very well for them. So, where
do they fall? That’s a really good question. Did I answer all of that? Okay.
>>So, you were talking about how–when you were maintaining the site, it was hard for
you to get up-to-date on all the different language available that’s…
>>BLUE: Uh-hmm.>>…community specific, and I’m wondering–I
think it will also be challenging for someone who is realizing they want to become part
of a community to figure out what the appropriate language is especially if there’s not any
local influence. What do you think–I guess, what do you think the development for that
would be? What do you think the future of that is? How do you think that can be made
easier?>>BLUE: I think that making–the development
of that and making that easier is definitely going to be the lowest entry level access
that people can get to information about things like this. So, keeping something like Wikipedia
up-to-date would be really, really, helpful. And I would love to see more sex educators
get involved in keeping Wikipedia up-to-date at least just with the, you know, with the
terms and everything that everyone is using and write–speak more about, you know, how
people are self labeling their gender, what’s acceptable and what’s not. And also what I’d
like to see added to that too, is sort of some guidelines to people who do have sexual
fetishes and sort of may need some guidelines about how they would behave online as well.
One of the things that came up when I was taking a look at the whole feet thing and
people being upset about the feet thing on Flickr, was that some people who were–some
of the foot fetishes were essentially adding themselves by leaving really inappropriate
comments, you know. And so, there needs to be some language out there that’s, you know,
as accessible to everyone as possible about that. I think that having sites network, sites
that do indexing in particular, having them network with community liaisons, people who
are working actively, you know, with peer to peer counseling and frontline counseling
like [INDISTINCT].org and organizations like that and, you know, even community health
clinics to just sort of keep up with, you know, what people are calling themselves,
you know. And also, you know, even sort of graphing, like, what sort of the urgent interests
are at this point as well. So, keeping it as low entry level as possible like Wikipedia,
basically, and trying to keep it up-to-date.>>Through your presentation, you were using
the words anonymous and private…>>BLUE: Uh-hmm.
>>…more or less interchangeably, but they’re…>>BLUE: Always in quotes.
>>…they’re different concepts.>>BLUE: Yes.
>>Right?>>BLUE: Right.
>>So, what do you think is more important to people searching for accurate sex information
or for porn?>>BLUE: What’s more important, anonymity
or privacy? Well, I don’t think that I could choose either one because I can’t speak for
the majority of users. And I would also say that the majority of users confuse the two
terms. I think that there is a test of–I think that users [INDISTINCT] think that when
they’re online, they just are anonymous. They don’t know that they need to go uncheck things,
they don’t need to, you know, they don’t know that they need to erase their search history.
They don’t, you know, the new user doesn’t know about cache and cookies and things like
that. So, I think that–I mean, we’re talking about people who are just figuring a lot of
the stuff out. They don’t need–you know, they don’t know that shopping at an online
sex store, you know, well, the sex store may, you know, can–like guarantee their privacy
in terms of shipping and packaging, may not necessarily guarantee their anonymity when
it comes to selling their info to third parties. So, I think that there’s a lot of confusion
between the two terms and as far as choosing which one is more important, I would say that
on a–on a cultural value level, anonymity because it allows people the freedom to figure
out and look for and explore and trying to understand who they are more. And–but I think
that privacy is a more–would be the more physical urgent thing because privacy is the
way that people get found out, it’s the way that people get outed, it’s the way that they
can be tracked, it’s the way that they can be harassed, stalked, humiliated, lose their
jobs, etcetera, etcetera, so it’s…>>Back to the 2257 searches.
>>BLUE: Uh-hmm.>>Were the–are the paths to those–to that
content primarily through image search or…>>BLUE: Yes.
>>…are they–and not so much through other search entry points? So, if I, you know, if
I search for 2257 on google.com web search, that doesn’t generally lead to that type of
content?>>BLUE: That’s correct. It was just the image
search that led to the direct files. Although, I’ve also randomly found websites that are
like “Here’s our 2257 info for each girl.” And the girl with their IDs and I’m like “Oh,
no.”>>So, this is back at the very beginning.
You were talking about how you basically, you know, did a search through Craig’s list.
I was just really curious, do you have or do you have like an easily rememberable link
to what the actual breakdown is? I was just…>>BLUE: Oh, when I was data mining?
>>Yeah. Like what do people mostly look for? I don’t know.
>>BLUE: You know what, it’s a Google spreadsheet and it’s public.
>>Oh. Cool.>>BLUE: So, I’ll blog it.
>>Is it linked on or…>>BLUE: As soon as I’m done, I’ll put it
on my–on my site. And it’s local data and then the beginnings of me starting to do the
national data. And then get to–I got totally freaked out about people having sex with dogs
in Texas, so I stopped for a little while because there was, like, a lot of them and
I was like, “Oh, this is isn’t going to be a good article for the Chronicle.” So, how
can I–no. But, yeah, it’s a Google Doc, yay, Google Doc, so it’s in public because I think
that–and, you know, as I add, you know, go back and add more information, it’s fun to
have people, sort of like, watch it grow and change and e-mail me about, you know, different
stuff. So…>>Awesome.
>>BLUE: Anybody else? Yay. Thank you.

100 Comments

  • Reply Marquis Elmdore April 26, 2008 at 4:27 am

    hm wise words

  • Reply DigitalDNA April 28, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Right…lets spread AIDS intelligently.

  • Reply Elmer van Engelenburg May 29, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    this is really the WORST presentation ever

  • Reply Elmer van Engelenburg May 31, 2008 at 5:45 am

    maybe it is, but presentation-like it's a disaster. And if I want to see flesh, I am not going to watch it on google techtalks. Reason I clicked it, was because of it's popularity.

  • Reply SK Cloud June 10, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Clever presentation.

  • Reply Khazeous June 26, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    She obviously knows her stuff — albeit alot of the things she talks about are quite obvious even to the average joe — but she is no speaker. There doesn't seem to be any real red line with her presentation.

    I'm glad people do talk about this stuff though.

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  • Reply Sterling999999 July 30, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    she looks like someone who would be looking up porn

  • Reply Janjubie August 8, 2008 at 7:15 am

    Jeez whats up with all the spam.

  • Reply xslf August 9, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    I think they are attracted by the words "porn" and "sex"…

  • Reply shaurz August 14, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    What are sex experts always vaguely ugly chicks with black hair and glasses?

  • Reply John P August 25, 2008 at 8:34 am

    The *REAL* sex experts are blonde bimbos like Paris and Britney of course.

  • Reply Not A Sk. Petersburg Troll Farm Employee August 27, 2008 at 7:31 am

    you speak the truth brother

  • Reply superman1251 September 7, 2008 at 6:14 am

    violet's presentation skillz suxx!! shes reading! and fast!

  • Reply hosein shabani September 12, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    unfortunately i couident see the whole video

  • Reply caj norlen October 8, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    1 hour long its this a joke

  • Reply sysFail81 October 9, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    hugly chicks try harder, so hugly folks

  • Reply awesome11991 March 6, 2009 at 1:02 am

    good vibrations XD

  • Reply SUBVERSIVE MEDIA March 29, 2009 at 9:56 am

    More far-left, vegan, politically correct, PETA loving CRAP (sticks finger down throat) uuugghhH!!!!! Someone shoot me!

  • Reply Anishet May 10, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    No mention of human trafficking or how the impression the sex slave trade has made on the adult entertainment industry?

  • Reply BishounenNerd June 12, 2009 at 5:27 am

    Despite this being a video of an intellectual nature, I'm not surprised that this is being hated on… Sex is still sadly a taboo, while war and murder is the stuff of PG-13 movies. I think society has it backwards…

  • Reply Cordial_Lump July 19, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I love the finger print analogy to sexuality

  • Reply PsychoSuo9000 July 25, 2009 at 1:16 am

    fuck this shit

  • Reply Nathan Dance July 25, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    thank god i live in the uk

  • Reply Larkinchance August 26, 2009 at 12:41 am

    i didnt have a problem with her talk..

  • Reply Occam September 25, 2009 at 10:04 am

    this woman could talk any straight man to get an immediate soft on.

  • Reply azeem khan October 22, 2009 at 1:54 am

    good speach.

  • Reply sheltv100 May 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Legislation: Pierre E. Trudeau said that the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation, if minors are involved it's a different matter, meaning that it is illegal for minors to be involved in sexual activities with adults.
    Religion: The reason why most Christians in America make up false stats on porn stars is because too many Christians are gullible and don't know reality and use prophecy as a cop out. I am a Christian myself and I believe that sex is not a sin because God created it.

  • Reply Goldfinger June 25, 2010 at 7:52 am

    She is a fucking boring speaker. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Reply Mark Walle August 7, 2010 at 12:58 am

    @ehsanul sexuality is a fairly universal interest, whereas many other talks on this channel are relatively esoteric. If you summed the number of viewers for these specialized subjects, it might be much closer to the number of this video, since all those people could find this accessible. Conversely, there's probably nobody who would really want to watch every single talk.
    There's not really anything sad about interest in sex, in fact, it's quite necessary to our survival.

  • Reply 1goddesstruth August 18, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    @BishounenNerd you're right but porn doesn't equate healthy sexual exploration. Actually porn leans more on the side of that war and destruction. Porn means the documentation of prostitutes, prostitution is slavery for women. Porn is about the commodification and consumption of women like meat. Women by the droves who spread their pussies for money and to feel like they are desired, or "free" in a slave society. Porn isn't good sex, it degrades people physically and spiritually.

  • Reply 1goddesstruth August 18, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    porn isn't adult entertainment, kids find it all the time, it's even worse with the internet. we have porn teaching kids how to relate to their bodies and the opposite sex, this is wrong. Porn is wrong. Porn was birthed out of culture that viewed naked bodies as sinful because they exposed the genitals, an ideal that came from the church. Google doesn't want to stop this, because this enslaves the minds and bodies of the people, which is GOOD for "the economy".

  • Reply Fanis H August 18, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    the only thing i understood in this video is the blaze of glory hell yeah!

  • Reply 1goddesstruth September 13, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    what? I ain't talking about sex, I'm talking about sexual slavery. Do you know anything about the history of prostitution??? Do you know the economic reasoning for it? Do you know why most cultures world wide didn't have prostitution or pornography until European colonization? We have been terribly misinformed that porn was apart of our sexualities, thats it's good for us. And you have no idea on how much you can't tell me that I have no idea or authority to say what I'm saying

  • Reply 1goddesstruth September 13, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    It isn't about not participating in, it's about looking at it's effect on the whole global community. There will be no porn if women were truly free, there will be no prostitution if there was a better distribution of wealth based on the true value of labor through our connection with planet. Me my self was both a whore and porn producer, I'm not just bitter but I've come to realize what the real deal is. Porn is promoted by our slave masters to sustain a system of war and exploitation PERIOD,

  • Reply 1goddesstruth September 13, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Do you not see what porn has done to our culture??? Porn is everywhere, all up on the tv, music videos (Rhianna anyone), magazines, billboards. We live in a pornographic world, not because sex is good, but "sex sales", which means the economy is based on degradation of the feminine. This is reflected in our insanely wasteful throwaway society, filling up landfills and gushing oil into the ocean. It's all connected to something called MOTHER-FUCKING, exploiting the female body for "gain"

  • Reply 1goddesstruth September 13, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    and of course you ain't got a problem, I'm sure you need porn. Talking about how bad porn is like taking candy from a baby, waaaaaaa!

  • Reply SeKToR November 5, 2010 at 4:28 am

    @1goddesstruth You are a pretty sad lady. People fear what they don't understand. Sex and pornography is part of every culture throughout history. It is another aspect of society like public sanitation. The only thing that separates it from anything else is it's taboo.

    Grow up, if you would actually read some religious scriptures it isn't as demonized or butchered as you hear it from your religious scholar.

    If you believe in God and you can assume he created sex and made it pleasurable.

  • Reply 1goddesstruth November 7, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    What? You got me wrong. I don't say sex is wrong. Where did you read that? Sex is beautiful, I love fucking and sucking and many different ways. I'm talking about the porn industry and the our pornographic culture degrading sex. Porn HASN'T been with us since the beginning. People didn't need to jerk of to rock carvings or lith prints because they could get the real thing. The depiction of sexual rites was apart of spirituality, the understanding of the importance of sex, porn today doesn't

  • Reply Steve S. January 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    This is video is the most popular in GoogleTechTalks. W T F?

  • Reply rclakmal January 24, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Anyway she is hot !

  • Reply MagicBoterham January 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    @200225030 Google should not be filtering those sites, they should be sending out information to the country where the domain is hosted. The country should then take the site down and the pedophiles should be traced and punished. Your proposed solution leaves the pedophile free to do as he-she pleases and the child abused while only helping you from seeing the pictures yourself. If the countries won't comply, Google should consider if they should still provide services to a country like that.

  • Reply Ramakrishna Siripuram April 25, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Boring. But the information was real usefull.

  • Reply William Hollin October 14, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    @BishounenNerd The average American is more offended by seeing a pair of boobs in a movie than a murder…We are a backward people

  • Reply BishounenNerd October 15, 2011 at 11:33 am

    @DelinquentBilly Agreed. Justin Timberlake proved that when he removed all that was covering Janet Jackson's breast. The whole thing was sensationalized, and people are probably still blaming Janet Jackson for it. And that another sad but true thing there, whenever a woman is exposed, it's always the woman's fault according to people. They see it as a "publicity stunt". I saw the footage. Justin made the move on her. She was the pariah. But then it shouldn't have been an issue anyway…

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  • Reply Mark Farrell February 2, 2012 at 4:49 am

    lmao

  • Reply merathy April 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    its very interesting but i dont like it when speakers read out.

  • Reply ImSubtle April 17, 2012 at 8:28 am

    dude if you correct some one at least try to use actual words. "Spelt?" jackass. And the chick in this video made a comment about how trolls are easily defeated.. she spends too much time alone and on forums. where the hell did she learn about sex?

  • Reply zak259 July 2, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    This woman should learn how to speak slowly and clearly to her audience, sounds like this lady is speaking with a chewing gum in her mouth!

  • Reply EclecticSceptic July 16, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    I want to listen to what she's saying, and absorb the information, but I don't know what fucking point she's making. Have to leave at 24:00.

  • Reply Gaming with Josh July 23, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    even when it's bad it's still pretty good.

  • Reply Gaming with Josh July 23, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    this girl is such a nerd. good for her.

  • Reply Alfred Dean August 1, 2012 at 5:18 am

    I hate you google…. So goddamn much!

  • Reply Rick Stevens August 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    She's obsessed with sex because she doesn't get any
    Most boring talk about a fun object I eve heard or seen
    After watching this, sexual pleasure is killed for a long long time.
    Thanks for hammering your personal moral into the innocent audience. join some alien cult girl or learn to shut up
    Amazing that peple are swallowing this…
    Publish or perish was this person's main motive, I say
    Anyway, she tries to make a point but fails epically
    Great science America
    dug
    #Losing

  • Reply The Vicious Chicken of Bristol August 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    This woman needs a good bukkake to cheer her up…

  • Reply atenrok August 7, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    awesome talk.

  • Reply qantum251 August 8, 2012 at 5:33 am

    straightforward you're damn right, she actually needs it, look at her it's matter of profile hehehe………

  • Reply qantum251 August 8, 2012 at 5:41 am

    look at that educator, that's good to hear about, fucking sexual educator…… need to be sexually educated, right? I say ball shit, I keep my engine running the way I've always did, it runs and no need to your advices….. Sex is sex, no need to go technical….it has never been rocket science.
    cheers!

  • Reply The Vicious Chicken of Bristol August 8, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    She's already equipped with glasses to keep it out of her eyes too!

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  • Reply Leo Marmis August 17, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    PORNOGRAPHY IS A CRIME SPECIALLY IF SOMEONE IS STUPID TO BE

  • Reply Fukinintronet August 18, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    0:00:37 kill it before it lays eggs!

  • Reply Jack Still October 14, 2012 at 2:01 am

    howd i get here from dead baby jokes?

  • Reply kevin bouge October 22, 2012 at 8:42 am

    The level of artificial intelligence is not high enough to filter properly those images but some people are working on this problematic…

  • Reply Seenext13 November 28, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    violets are blue – go fuck you

  • Reply Rebel Stiltskin December 20, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Youtube won't let me post a comment on this particular vid….. WTF?

  • Reply Rebel Stiltskin December 21, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Hmmmm…. my previous 100 attempts didn't work… is it censorship based on keywords?

    In my comment was the words CIA, Google, Youtube, data-mining, email spying

  • Reply Tay Tayy December 31, 2012 at 5:02 am

    I have a question. What is the drive of Porn stars? Does anyone even… erm.. know??

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  • Reply Jyzz Moe June 11, 2013 at 2:48 am

    Google is not some cool sciency high tech company.
    They are are an ad company.
    They collect information on their users and
    sell it to whomever pays the most money.
    THEY CONSTANTLY SPIN THEMSELVES AS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOT.
    Stop drinking their Cool-Aid and look at them for what they are!

  • Reply karambit June 16, 2013 at 12:02 am

    Search "The Great Porn Experiment" on YouTube and educate yourselves on how the internet is turning men into gelatinous beta males. #NoFap

  • Reply David Katz June 18, 2013 at 7:30 am

    It's very easy for anyone to locate sex and porn over the Internet. It's also very easy for one's personal information to wind up online as well.

  • Reply Austin Weiss June 20, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Some are offended by sex and nudity in videos. Others are surprised that those people would be offended, but, is it right, or is it wrong? There are reasons it is right and wrong. It is our duty as people to listen to both reasons, to understand the truth. It's right, because they are real humans, using their real bodies to get pleasure. It's wrong, because it is UNNATURAL to present an embarrassing thing to online public, to meet sexually with people one doesn't know, and please superficially.

  • Reply carth wright September 23, 2013 at 2:21 am

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  • Reply Boris Chu November 3, 2013 at 5:56 am

    Great talk! I wish I could say something non-trivial in this comment box, but I don't know enough about this topic to say anything worthwhile.

    Thanks!

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  • Reply xponen_ February 4, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    I disagree with the talker's POV toward the majority perspective on sexuality (which sounded negative). The normal is that society always have a taboo, which one of them can be/is sexuality (this taboo not need to be something negative). The point about a girl worried about STD & toilet seat is not necessary blameable on lack of sex education but rather lack of scientific knowledge in general, in fact, (surprise!) Herpes virus might able to infect this way since it can survive for weeks on any surface. 
    The problem can really be fixed in many other way rather than blaming sex Taboo. 

  • Reply Gold Finch February 14, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    lot of junk talking

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    This is very creative.I think others should make similar videos 

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